On 9 December 2014 at 14:18, Brian Wheeler <bdwheele@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I also expect things to work with the minimum amount of fuss. So do I! I'm a developer, which spin do I use so that the firewall doesn't get in my way? We can't develop a *product* based around what you specifically want, not me, nor anyone else on this list. > So it looks like my choices boil down to: > * Use the workstation project and spend a bunch of time locking it down to > what would be reasonable default for the networks I use -- and hope I don't > miss anything. Sure, you can do that, you seem more technically proficient with firewalls than me. If you want to trust the system, you've got to be able to understand it. > * Use the server product and manually configure all of the workstation stuff > so I get a usable system You sound like you can do that too. > Neither of those choices seem reasonable to me, especially compared to the > status quo: a fully configured workstation where I open new ports as I > increase functionality. I don't think it makes much sense for people to stamp their feet saying "BUT I LIKED THE OLD WAY OF DOING THINGS" when the people leading the workstation product have identified that the old way of doing things just doesn't work for the majority of people. You're probably not in that majority, but that doesn't mean the change is in someway intrinsically flawed. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
