Re: "Workstation" Product defaults to wide-open firewall

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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 10:22:01 AM
> Subject: Re: "Workstation" Product defaults to wide-open firewall
> 
> On Di, 2014-12-09 at 08:16 -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:54:59PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > > Why we can't have something like this?  And if you don't want a popup
> > > > asking, have something in the NetworkManager applet menu, where people
> > > > can easily find the switch without having to search for it?  A "[x]
> > > > allow sharing" checkbox?  A firewall zone selector?
> > > 
> > > We can — we just need someone to design and write it.
> > 
> > A design for something that we don't want to implement. This was one of the
> > options when implementing the feature, one that we didn't pursue. We chose
> > instead to use "user intent" as a way to do this.
> > 
> > If you start sharing something on a network, then we consider it safe to
> > share.
> > If you connect to a public unencrypted Wi-Fi, you won't have the option to.
> > If
> > you connect to an encrypted Wi-Fi where sharing your holiday photos isn't
> > acceptable
> > then it won't, because you didn't ask it to in the first place.
> 
> That assumes all applications behave that way.  Which simply isn't true,
> there is a world outside gnome.  You apparently choose to ignore that,
> which is a bad idea IMO.

Well we are not shipping by default anything which doesn't conform to this,
and if you go out of your way to install something I don't think it is far
fetched to assume you want that thing to work.

Christian
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