On 12/05/2014 01:32 AM, M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote: > As a user/re-mixer, I don't like it. I'm at the point now where I need > a rolling release. I can live with a six-month or eight-month lag > between desktop updates, but I can't live without regular updates to R > and R packages, PostgreSQL/PostGIS, QGIS, the Python data science > tools, etc. And I'm running the Developer Edition of Firefox, which > updates almost every day. > > There's only one major distro now with a calendar-driven release > cadence, and quite frankly I don't know how they do it. Everyone else > is either rolling, try for calendar but don't ship if it's fatally > broken (Fedora and openSUSE), or ship when it's solid and stable and > supportable (Debian and RHEL). > > I'm probably going to run at least one of my machines on Rawhide after > the F21 release, but I think the "sweet spot" is what openSUSE has > done - a stable release with a nominal eight-month cycle and a rolling > release (Tumbleweed) layered over that. I'd like Fedora to at least > consider something similar. > Minor version updates are allowed by the update policy, and packages like Firefox are in effect on a rolling release anyway. I believe R is also updated quite regularly. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy#All_other_updates Do we have the manpower for a Tumbleweed-style repo that is built against the stable release as its core? Or perhaps the present upgrade policy is sufficient, and the lack of updates Ed cite is already a reflection of a lack of available manpower to update the packages he mentioned (apart from PostgreSQL, where we wouldn't want to upgrade mid-release). Ed, could you perhaps cite specific R and Python tools where you find the current version to be insufficiently up-to-date? We could perhaps create a tracker for update requests, and provide a Bugzilla template for it linked to from the package database and from the Fedora homepage - that way we could prioritize what packages users really want updated. Best regards, -- Michel Alexandre Salim Fedora Project Contributor: http://fedoraproject.org/ Email: salimma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | GPG key ID: A36A937A IDs: keybase.io/michel-slm | IRC: michel_slm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
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