PVM in particular and high-performance computing in general are severely broken in most Linux distros and applications. First of all, there's licensing - the GPU folk, especially NVidia, aren't willing to back down as long as their intellectual property strategies are making them rich. For example, I took a stab at enabling OpenCL on Fedora 21 after seeing it in the release notes and ran into a bunch of bugs and piss-poor / non-existent documentation. Second, most of this stuff is "clever hacks" by scientists who aren't software engineers. I'm somewhat unique - I've spent a big chunk of my life in scientific applications programming / software engineering, but most scientists have to be taught the basics - the shell, version control, etc. - by the likes of the Software Carpentry project. Personally, I say "go ahead and kick PVM out of Fedora." IMHO a distro should provide the kernel, compilers and interpreters, installers, desktops, filesystems, virtualization, etc. and end-user applications / language communities should distribute stuff that works on any distro. Nobody's going to be "the best distro for" bioinformatics, audio engineering, robotics, web design, etc. - that's not the way open source works. On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Richard Shaw <hobbes1069@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Is anyone going to scream if PVM get's retired? > > Upstream was last updated in 2009 as far as I can tell... > It's packaging is atrocious... > The source is copied to the buildroot and compiled in place... > It violates the packaging guidelines in multiple bad ways... > Also see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1029469 > > If someone wants/needs it then they need to step up and fix the open bugs > and at least make an attempt at getting ti closer aligned to the packaging > guidelines. > > Thanks, > Richard > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- Twitter: http://twitter.com/znmeb; OSJourno: Robust Power Tools for Digital Journalists https://osjourno.com Remember, if you're traveling to Bactria, Hump Day is Tuesday and Thursday. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct