This is about bug #1136905 [1], discussed previously on the systemd list [2] and also on our desktop list [3]. The issue is that systemd-timedated now supports only systemd-timesyncd for NTP and ignores other NTP services installed on the system. It doesn't know that chronyd or ntpd is enabled (usually by system-config-date after the installation) and switching NTP in timedate clients such as timedatectl and GNOME control center is broken. If we want to have this working correctly with chronyd/ntpd, at this point it seems the only reasonable option is to replace systemd-timedated. timedatex is a new implementation of the timedate interface that was recently added to Fedora. It reads the list of NTP units from a directory as systemd-timedated used to do. When installed, systemd will start it for the timedate bus name instead of systemd-timedated. The timedate clients should work as expected, please report bugs if not. One suggestion was to install it as a dependency of the NTP packages. Is this a good idea? Should this first go through the Fedora change process or at least be documented somewhere? [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1136905 [2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-August/022367.html [3] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/desktop/2014-September/010749.html -- Miroslav Lichvar -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct