-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 08:16:30 -0700 "Gerald B. Cox" <gbcox@xxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 8:00 AM, drago01 <drago01@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > I am not convinced that "being fast" and "download less" are > > mutually exclusive when using deltas. So we should keep deltas > > *and* make them faster. > > > > Exactly. The fact that some users have more bandwidth means exactly > what? Most people also have faster processors and disks now. It is > more efficient from a networking perspective to minimize unnecessary > traffic and use local processing. That was behind the rationale when > delta was introduced and made the default. It was valid then, and it > is valid now. You don't change the default without following the > proper process. even in some countries that are highly developed there is issues. In Australia for instance it is extremely common to have download caps. having deltas even if slower will give a better experience as users will not use up as much of the download cap. What we have is different scenarios we can not possibly know all of the data about. we should err on the side of being conservative in places where the potential cost is highest. while the cost of applying deltarpms can be high I think that the potential cost of bandwidth is higher, as such we should default to deltarpm support and make it easy to disable for those that want to. Dennis -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUXGBsAAoJEH7ltONmPFDRcBIP/iYYKF343fgyv6gznyPqdmxm FI3KKTuYEPMNc+Ze+S/A8XM0Oy7NLWHVEn2EuHs7VLMHp31SHulJyO3cfPlAvrWX NBz6R7GOYvkNgL1MGd1Hw/+M0aVTaza7FK451T+mTU13Dy0s3MwjpkTUEBNqs1U5 tagUg77kthrY/R510OS5FK5QZQW4/nZ852wPZLMrUG44e0/aAIIAaDSCTzHLWIt0 AttShV07WbVuk/0cVerBcpaoS6+kU3B7N+mEfy4+3Ra1/t7oKwdhYKhXWioZ6dVw lgWfr1UzkbxfX/5q5Zmcnt8bwbXtK9cssvGAR9srlwMWvMKRqT666n2ZK6nMu2ml Uw/Ue1RdiOsRGEXNuKiFRY5cuDVD18TeflPtAklNn2BWmeAqJx3Wlv4b2T8lTBWC w4YuyKByoe9Ul47F7onSHL0vS1Zzs4lT3rUAsYLKilv7wji7VIphCKlJQ3zzxqtu EEfRQlHGD1stfNAghHeop4/yiAmmUeRFGPo1tUTkhe5+pweVY5cqNaFMZ6eDJdyq sLG1k3nOnXVkqb5w03OkCcyg7a54zBju3XEj0gnmQpOtPNJ4PZAF5/XkWjb3e6Bu psV9z9IOgxYroXP6kPH3aOTcdiUA8XRTYfwln0BCsyQP3XBY5iegPvsslWjkJOza xCNCQtwrI3VyYmGfyTb4 =AloG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct