On Tue, 2014-11-04 at 15:26 -0500, Peter Jones wrote: > On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 09:13:07AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 10:13 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 04:08:36PM +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > > Is there any authoritative group at Fedora who wants the product to not > > > > suck like that? > > > > > > Authoritative? Probably FESCo. > > > > Well, this sounds like a packaging issue, doesn't it? > > Er, no? I see where you're coming from, and the distinction can be > somewhat muddled at times. It is in a package, granted, but so is > everything else, but "Software should honor TMPDIR and everything across > the distro should have the same defaults" isn't really about packaging > the software at all. > > > Wouldn't the expected outcome be a packaging guideline for how to deal > > with temporary directory locations? So, the packaging committee... > > Maybe, but maybe not? Look at it this way: the last times we changed the > rules here are effectively these two features: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ServicesPrivateTmp > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs > > Both of them specify that things should use /tmp - the first for a > select batch of programs, the second for the whole distro. In neither > case is there an FPC ruling on the matter, and in neither case is > the actual packaging /necessarily/ affected. If there's no need to have > a specific rule about where a packager should be installing files, what > kind of config file should be used to manage something, or other things > of that nature, this sort of thing usually doesn't go through FPC. I guess my perspective was the only practical way to change how something does /tmp is a) change it upstream (in which case it's not Fedora's business at all) or b) change it in the package (in which case it seems like a packaging guideline - Thou Shalt Make Sure Thine Package Uses /tmp Thusly). I suppose that doesn't cover the case of software whose upstream is a part of Fedora, though, thinking about it. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
