Adam Williamson composed on 2014-11-04 23:22 (UTC-0800): > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1123170 , I never have time > to investigate it properly and provide details - sorry about that. But I > guess the same way of thinking would say the timer is a 'step in the > right direction' for me because my system will eventually give up and > hard power off after 30 minutes - but does that really practically make > me feel like I'm getting a better experience? I've seen shutdown delays on various installations going back to when systemd was very young. Often they seem to stem from start processes that reported failure at init time, so at shutdown time, instead of stop jobs, I see *start* jobs stalling. One of the easier ways to cause a shutdown delay is to try to CAD right after making a boot menu selection and realizing I chose the wrong one. That typically will hang with message "failed to store sound card state", and continually repeat for as long as CAD is held down. It doesn't happen on every installation, but it is common. Rather than trying to troubleshoot any of these hangs I invariably have more urgent things to do and reach for the reset button or power switch. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
