Re: Latest F-21 updates cause non-booting system on some Haswel systems + workaround

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On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Josh Boyer <jwboyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 2:53 PM, Andrew Lutomirski <luto@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Hans de Goede <hdegoede@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Just spend some time debugging this and thought I should share this, see:
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762195
>>>>
>>>> for details, I've filed a bug to track fixing this in Fedora:
>>>>
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1147062
>>>>
>>>> There are 2 ways this problem shows itself:
>>>>
>>>> 1) If using an initrd which has been generated with the troublesome microcode
>>>> update into it, things may already crash during the initrd, e.g. in my case
>>>> some luks volumes would not unlock because of this
>>>>
>>>> 2) When booting an older kernel (and thus an older initrd) things start crashing
>>>> (mostly systemd* processes, grinding everything to a halt) as soon as udev
>>>> from the rootfs loads the microcode update
>>>>
>>>> 2. often will still get you to an emergency shell, at which point one can
>>>> create a /etc/modprobe.conf.d/no_microcode.conf file with:
>>>>
>>>> blacklist microcode
>>>>
>>>> In there to work around the problem, then regenerate the initrds for newer
>>>> kernels, and you should be good to go until bug 1147062 gets fixed properly.
>>>
>>> Yeah, sorry, I should have tried to notify the right Fedora people in advance.
>>
>> I knew about it.  This is basically a breakdown in communication
>> between the kernel people and the microcode_ctl owner.  it was
>> compounded by the fact that I didn't realize our main dracut
>> maintainer was on PTO so I didn't fix dracut myself until this
>> morning.
>>
>>> This is a nasty issue, and no one knows how to solve it for real yet.
>>> See this long thread:
>>>
>>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1790211
>>
>> Yeah.  FWIW, I just filed an update to have Fedora use early microcode
>> by default.  A COPR of this was tested successfully by a few people
>> that had the Haswell issue.
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dracut-038-29.git20140903.fc21,kernel-3.16.3-302.fc21
>
> Everyone will still crash their system once, though, unless
> microcode_ctl learns to blacklist this particular update.

The microcode_ctl package that added this update was karma'd out.  So
it shouldn't be in updates-testing any longer, which will help
mitigate how wide spread it is.

Also "Everyone" here is "everyone with a Haswell CPU that has HLE
enabled and managed to get microcode_ctl-2.1-8 from updates-testing in
the window it was available", which fortunately is not anywhere near
"everyone in Fedora".  Please use care when throwing around
generalities.

josh
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