Someone's situation on the main fedora list (they were accidentally getting kerberized ftp instead of vsftpd as they expected) reminded me of this: <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/beta/show_bug.cgi?id=81836> Currently, there are several daemon programs in the krb5-workstation subpackage which one wouldn't necessarily expect or want on a workstation. (Obviously, telnetd, ftpd, kshd, klogind, etc. And probably login.krb5 too, since we've got PAM.). In this day and age, perhaps dropping them completely (in favor of fully-encrypted protocols like ssh) is the way to go, but failing that, my suggestion is to move them to a more clearly-named subpackage. (And to one that doesn't contain important utilities like kdestroy, etc.) -- Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://www.mattdm.org/> Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/>