On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 19:07 +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Am 23.06.2014 18:47, schrieb Chris Adams: > >> Once upon a time, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@xxxxxxxx> said: > >>> Try yum update when the oldest installed kernel (and the running > >>> kernel) is the only one that works and there is a new (still broken > >>> for your system) kernel update available. In that case one really > >>> wouldn't expect the running kernel be removed. Having to remove a > >>> specific kernel before doing an update (to make sure the wrong one > >>> wasn't removed) would be a pain. > >> > >> I guess I never considered it a pain. That's exactly what I would do if > >> I knew a particular kernel was broken (remove specifically the broken > >> kernel). I never knew yum/a yum plugin/whatever did "magic" stuff based > >> on the running kernel, trying to remove "special" packages like yum, > >> etc. > > > > be glad that you learned something new :-) > > > > > >> I have no problem with GUI tools having magic protections built in, but > >> I prefer CLI tools that don't try to out-think me. yum/dnf already asks > >> for confirmation (which is more than up2date did); having additional > >> layers of protection/confirmation/whatever built-in seems excessive to > >> me. > > > > in general - agreed > > > > but not if it comes to destory the complete setup > > > >> It looks like there isn't even a way to override this behavior in yum. > >> I haven't wanted to remove all the kernels in a while (I guess since > >> before this was added); is the only way to bypass yum and use rpm? > > > > yes - simply because the chance that soemone wants to uninstall all > > kernels, yum, dnf and finalyl rpm itself is very low > > You still did not give a simple case why someone with some sanity left > would do "yum remove rpm" or "yum remove yum" ... One thing I've seen a few times at the time Yum didn't have that protection was « I don't do development, so I can remove Python » It did lead to a few people not having Yum installed any more. -- Mathieu -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct