On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:07:25PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Hi, sorry for the late reply, I'm away on a workshop... > So, this change went to fesco last week, but there were some > questions/issues around it. Could change owners respond to: > > 1) sgallagh wasn't sure this was a self contained change: > see: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1250#comment:19 sgallagh wrote "I don't consider this to be a self-contained change. If it goes into effect, we (FESCo) are basically stating that this a recommended way for users to gather journald logs in a central location" I don't know where this conclusion comes from. This change is about adding some new software... When e.g. Ganesha is proposed as a Change, it doesn't that it is the recommended network filesystem implementation. I am open to adding some text making it explicit that this is a new technology and probably only suitable for some use cases. He also writes "particularly since it appears to have been developed without the input of the journald creators". The code in question has been reviewed on the systemd mailing list, and discussed internally. Also, although I didn't have anything to do with initial journald creation, I have been one the people handling bugs and adding features to it over the last two years. > 2) FESCo in general wondered if we advertised this as a change if > people would see it as the recommended/default way to handle remote > system logs. Is it planned to be that, or is it just a 'here's a > preview of how we hope to do this down the road'? The latter. Not that I think it will not work, but making it the default/recommended thing when it's not even written yet seems premature. > 3) There were general concerns around the protocol/setup... but I think > those were raised before in this thread. Is there any revisiting of the > protocol/etc planned? Or things are pretty set at this point? This was proposed as a Change exactly for the purpose of gathering feedback, even of the fargoing kind like that. There's lot of merit in the proposed protocol modifications, but it's a fairly big modification, and I haven't had time to properly think about it. Zbyszek -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct