Once upon a time, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > defense in depth means limit the attack surface as much as you can No, because "as much as you can" is turn the system off and bury it in concrete (with an armed guard). The goal is "as much as practical". Trying to remove things that are needed is not practical. Spending a whole bunch of effort to allow you to remove systemd (again, just the files, it isn't running) seems excessive. There are some basic things that RPMs expect; installing a service expects that the service management tools are present. -- Chris Adams <linux@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct