On Tue, 29.04.14 18:03, Alexander Larsson (alexl@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On tis, 2014-04-29 at 17:40 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 29.04.14 16:58, Alexander Larsson (alexl@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > On tis, 2014-04-29 at 12:33 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > On Mon, 28.04.14 17:01, Daniel J Walsh (dwalsh@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > > > > > The problem is lots of services require systemd because they ship a > > > > > unit file and want systemctl reload to happen. Systemd then triggers a > > > > > require for udev and kmod, which docker containers do not need. > > > > > > > > If you discount the docs/man pages of the RPMs, how much does kmod, > > > > udev, systemd actually contribtue in bytes to your docker images? > > > > > > Its around 15 megs or so, although on rhel7 its 20 megs larger because > > > of a dependency that kmod has on /usr/bin/nm (binutils) that doesn't > > > seem to be there on fedora kmod. This seems like a bug in fedora though, > > > as kmod ships /usr/sbin/weak-modules which calls nm, so once fixed > > > fedora would be at 35 meg too. > > > > I am pretty sure that the weak-modules thing should just go. It's > > outdated cruft, for some enterprise thing, and inused in Fedora. I'd > > really recommend to just drop it from the Fedora package... > > > > > But, even if the size is small that is not the full picture. There are a > > > bunch of dependencies like dbus (the daemon), device-mapper, kmod, and > > > iptables that are recursively pulled in by systemd that don't really > > > > device-mapper? iptables? That sounds wrong... Any idea how that gets > > pulled in? the dm libs might get pulled in indirectly via libcryptsetup, > > but the other dm tools really shouldn't be. And iptables i really don't > > see how that's pulled in? > > systemd => cryptsetup-libs => device-mapper-libs => device-mapper > > Don't have time to look up the details atm, but iptable was reached via > initscripts somehow. I wonder if we can break the d-m-l → d-m link... If we can't there's probably little reason to have two packages for this... Lennart -- Lennart Poettering, Red Hat -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
