----- Original Message ----- > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 04/15/2014 11:29 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> ...snip... > >> > >>> Special Requests: Cockpit would like to request an additional > >>> 2-4 weeks on the Fedora 21 schedule to ensure completion of the > >>> core functionality. > >> > >> So, you want to push final release out to november? Or can you > >> expand on what you mean by 'on the Fedora 21 schedule' ? > >> > > > > > > When I spoke with the Cockpit developers, there was concern that they > > would not quite be "feature-complete" by the currently-targeted Alpha > > date. In order to have a little breathing room, it was decided that we > > should request additional time there. Perhaps we could shave a week > > off off each of the Beta and Final deadlines to accommodate an > > additional two weeks on Alpha? (Of course, that carries risks on test > > coverage as well...) > > > > The purpose of requesting the additional time was to alert FESCo that > > there is a risk of delaying the Alpha release for this Change (if > > approved) and communicating that up front. > > Instead of delaying the whole release even more ... would it make > sense to simply > ask for this feature to have an exception to let it land in beta > instead of alpha? > OTOH this would kind of limit testing time for it. I think this definitely better way - not being as strict regarding deadlines for Cockpit and get some test coverage during later Test Day. Cutting one week from Alpha/Beta cycle is doable but only when it's really, really needed. We did this voodoo magic a few times to avoid Christmas etc. and believe me - that note in the Task Juggler source for schedule - never, ever, do this - is just truth. It pains. So the question is - is this Change that Change, delaying the WHOLE Fedora 21 schedule so much desirable? But I still prefer being more flexible with deadlines + scope cutting. Jaroslav > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct