On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:42 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am 21.04.2014 03:39, schrieb Lars Seipel: >> Nicely aligning with the current firewall thread I noticed that one of >> my machines was running the exim MTA for the last few days, dutifully >> listening on all interfaces > > and now it is *proven for sure* that disable the firewall > by default is the most dumb thing a distribution can do > > drago01 will now say again "that is a bug" > yes, in that case in *two* packages at the same time > but hwat matters is the impact of a bug > > * smartmontools wanted sendmail instead MTA for sending sysmessages > * sendmail obviously has a braindead default configuration listening on all ports > * sendmail service is obviously enabled at install time even if smartmontools > only need /usr/sbin/sendmail > > all things i said that they are happening and will happen again and again > while they get fixed here and there - again and again - that's life > > so you can run in circles and shout "that is a bug" which is > true and while you are fix it it brings people in trouble > or you have by default a security layer which hopefully does > not open port 25 automated because you install sendmail > > the next problem: even if such a bug is fixed the affected users > keep to be fucked because the updated smartmontools only require > any MTA (which is correct) and so nothing will remove sendmail > on that machines nor close port 25 after a update of smartmontools > If all smartmontools need is to just send emails out, I would suggest using something like ssmtp or msmtp. > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=511458 > * Thu Apr 17 2014 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink@xxxxxxxxxx> > - 1:6.2-5 - require /usr/sbin/sendmail as MTA is not provided by all packages (#1048618) > * Tue Apr 15 2014 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink@xxxxxxxxxx> > - 1:6.2-4 - use MTA instead of sendmail as a requirement (#1048614) > * Thu Apr 10 2014 Michal Hlavinka <mhlavink@xxxxxxxxxx> - 1:6.2-3 > - add mail requires (#1048614) > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct