Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

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Am 15.04.2014 22:19, schrieb Andreas Tunek:
> 2014-04-15 21:28 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>
>>
>> Am 15.04.2014 20:18, schrieb Andreas Tunek:
>>> 2014-04-15 20:08 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> Am 15.04.2014 20:03, schrieb Andreas Tunek:
>>>>> I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see
>>>>> any point in a firewall for a "Workstation".
>>>>
>>>> that's obviously
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, while we are on the subject, does anyone know how to actually
>>>>> disable the firewall in Fedora 20? I haven't managed to figure it
>>>>> out....
>>>>
>>>> and that is why you like it to be disabled for anybody?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?q=fedora+20+disable+firewall
>>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD
>>>>
>>>> as for any other service:
>>>> systemctl disable firewalld.service iptables.service
>>>> systemctl stop firewalld.service iptables.service
>>>
>>> If you look here it says you only have to disable firewalld:
>>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=296398
>>>
>>> Do you actually have to disable iptables as well?
>>
>> what are you doing in that thread?
> 
> That thread was the second result from the google search you made a
> link to. I assume you posted that link for a reason.

this is a development list, i posted that link because normally
someone types "Fedora disable firewall" in Google, my question
was more meant why do you discuss on a technical list inside
security related topic if you miss basics

>> if you don't know how to disable a service you have not
>> any qualification to discuss here about security and that
>> words are as friendly chosen as possible!
>>
>> type the two commands i posted and be happy
> 
> I am more happy when I learn about how stuff actually works.

fine *but* that thread is *not* the right place

i even go so far to say you do *not* need nor *should*
you disable your firewall, you should learn how to
open ports and which one you are *really* need to
be opened instead throw away any security barrier
beause it is so much easier not close the door and
hope after coming home your TV is still there

>> i don't know if oyu are using the classic iptables service or
>> firewalld nor am i interested and so i told you a command to
>> disable and stop both  - no idea why you need to answer with
>> a forum thread which i don't care at all
> 
> If you are not interested you can just ignore posts

that's not the point

the point is that you discuss in a security related topic
while your problem is far off-topic

> But anyway, wasn't it quite clear that I am running 
> the default Fedora 20 setup?

no, there is nothing quite clear because we talk about a
linux system which may have seen dist-upgrades from times
before firewalld even existed (like all my systems) or
highly customized and *because* of that i posted a command
to disable *both* possibilities *additionally* to show how
find such informations at your own


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