Re: Maybe it's time to get rid of tcpwrappers/tcpd?

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On 03/28/2014 12:49 PM, Pete Zaitcev wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:34:22 +0100
> Lennart Poettering <mzerqung@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> I doubt there are many people even using them anymore, firewalls are
>> more comprehensive and a lot more powerful, and while every admin knows
>> firewalls, I figure only very few know tcpd/tcpwrap, and even fewer ever
>> actively make use of them...
> 
> I use tcpwrappers through denyhosts, which write out /etc/hosts.deny.
> Then openssh-server then uses the tcpwrappers to apply the rules (AFAIK).
> When I investigated it, denyhosts was superior to fail2ban due to the
> latter doing some crazy stuff with iptables that made me uncomfortable.
> Also, this:
> 
> Installing:
>  fail2ban           noarch     0.9-0.3.git1f1a561.fc20        fedora      261 k
> Installing for dependencies:
>  ed                 x86_64     1.10-1.fc20                    updates      72 k
>  gamin-python       x86_64     0.1.10-15.fc20                 fedora       34 k
>  python-inotify     noarch     0.9.4-4.fc20                   fedora       49 k
>  systemd-python     x86_64     208-15.fc20                    updates      80 k
> 
> I agree that tcpwrappers should die in favour of firewalls.
> Folks working on fail2ban are already considering integration
> with firewalld, which seems like a great idea. Too bad fail2ban
> is just as crusty as tcpwrappers. If we only had denyhosts that
> executed firewall-cmd...
> 
> -- Pete
> 

What gives you the impression that fail2ban is "crusty"?  It's being
actively developed upstream and integrates with firewalld now.  Are
those particularly onerous dependencies?

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