On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 05:07:35PM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> Alternative idea -- maybe identify all packages which are not ciritcal and >> have an open merge review. Take those packages out of the repository. >> Then revisit the list and formulate a plan on what to do with thoes (even if >> the plan is then, these were critical enough to leave in so we'll give them >> a pass on going through a formal review). > > I like the idea of actually revisiting the list and deciding what to do, > although pulling them out of the repository seems unnecessarily drastic. This always winds up being the suggestion. Nobody actually does anything about it. I'd only be supportive of this on two conditions: 1) Actual bugs impacting actual people as a result of an improper spec file were present 2) One of the bodies responsible for packages in Fedora (FESCo, FPC, ?) agreed to conduct audits across all packages for guideline adherence at regular intervals. I'd be willing to not require item 1 if item 2 were actually done. It never has been, and if it had it would already suffice for the purpose the merge review tickets would serve today. We have a lot of guidelines. Enough that it can be rather daunting to a new packager to even start packaging something. What we have always lacked is enforcement and accountability on those guidelines _after_ something is in the distro. Fix that problem and everything else relating to it will be solved. josh -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct