2014-02-22 3:08 GMT+01:00 Chris Murphy <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:38 PM, John.Florian@xxxxxxxx wrote:What you're essentially suggesting is the necessary trade off between stability and features isn't being balanced, in your experience. I'd agree with that assessment. I've done hundreds of Windows installs and thousands of OS X installs and those installers never crash. Ever. Seriously never. You can throw the most bizarre crap at them, even a disk with 42 partitions of just linux and BSD and they don't crash. And what interaction time? It's point and install. There's nothing to interact with because there are no options.
> That makes a lot of sense, but I'd like to add that when doing custom partitioning, you can easily spend the bulk of your actual interaction time getting the partitioning customized exactly the way you want and when anaconda crashes,
I don't find that a compelling argument for many reasons, not least of which is the tens of thousands of OS X and Windows admins who get few install time layout choices, and they seem quite content.
> However, when I have my admin hat on, I want flexibility.
The necessary context to add here is that both OS X and Windows have much better _post-install_ layout choices. Both can convert a non-encrypted filesystem to encrypted post-installation, online, without significant downtime. Re: LVM, IIRC OS X is setting up CoreStorage by default; Windows uses plain partitions, but can convert plain partitions into Dynamic Disks without backup&restore.
The capabilities of the underlying storage stacks are different, so a great UI for one may not be an acceptable UI for the other.
Mirek
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