tir, 16.11.2004 kl. 22.07 skrev Sean Middleditch: > This getting off-topic for this list. Please send future replies to me > and not the list. Or at least move this to fedora-list and not the > development list. > > On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 21:53 +0100, Kyrre Ness Sjobak wrote: > > But then Novel, RedHat, part of the comunity etc. - i.e. firms and > > people involved - should give them that reason. We should produce those > > "cool" things everybody just got to have - and the solution is Linux! > > I think you missed half of what I said. There is nothing you can > produce on Linux that isn't going to also exist in some form on Windows, > and there will still be tons of things on Windows that don't exist on > Linux. > > Again, what is the "problem" you are trying to solve? You even did > exactly what I told you not to do - you just shouted out that "the > solution is Linux!" without stating what it's a solution to. You want > to convert Windows users for absolutely no good reason that I can > ascertain. > It is strictly a marketing problem. How to get Linux a bigger marketshare. > > > > Mac has understood this. Now "everybody" wants a mac. > > No, they don't. Less people want a Mac than the people who want a Linux > PC, according to some counts. The only people I've ever seen want a Mac > were people who were already using Linux, or people who's family or > workplace were already Mac-users. Well - two guys in my class got themselvs a mac. Now half the class wants a mac: - It looks shiny (including on-screen) - It has a shiny, lots-off-effects presentation program (keynote), which the mac crowd use to show off Technology and sales isn't anymore just about whats *practical* and whats *cheapest*. As long as a large bunch of the population don't know what RAM and MHZ is, they just go with the offer the salesman in the flashy suit offers him/her. > > The average guy does not want a Mac for the exact same reason that the > average guy does not want Linux. The only real thing Macs do better > than Linux is software installation, namely in that it's possible > without using a shell or needing deep yum/apt-foo. > synaptic? It can't get much easier than that... (okay. Nintendo has an easyer system) > > > > first thing i can come up with (maybe not so usefull, but really cool) > > that *might* be a killer app is Sun's looking glas 3D desktop. > > > > http://wwws.sun.com/software/looking_glass/ > > If that is what the OSS movement calls a killer app then it's painfully > clear why people stick with Windows. That app has absolutely no > practical purpose. It's eye candy at most, and it isn't even > particularly *good* eye candy. Most of the demos I've seen of it show > all these 3D structures that actually make the desktop *harder* to use. > > Looking Glass people did the exact same thing I accused you of doing - > they found a solution without a problem. They have no freakin' clue > what to do with Looking Glass or how to make it useful to anyone, but > they developed it anyhow just because they can. > I know - but you are looking at it from a strictly technical perspective. If Linux ever is going to be big on the desktop, it has to *look* good. > > > > Kyrre > > I see you point - but as long
