On Wed, 2014-02-26 at 21:56 +0000, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > For the sorts of tests you are talking about it's much better to test > the final RPM installed in a full OS environment. That is what (I > hope) Taskotron is trying to do. Well, that's *one* of the things it does, yes (as AutoQA did before it). Both taskotron and AutoQA were conceived as fairly generic testing frameworks, though. They aren't intended to be inextricably tied to distribution packages or koji or bodhi or anything else like that. In practice AutoQA turned out to be somewhat coupled at least to some Fedora-specific infrastructure, and that's one of the reasons behind the taskotron re-design: http://tirfa.com/down-with-test-automation-long-live-task-automation.html So, yeah: running tests on packages in full OS environments is certainly one of the major things we want to do with Taskotron, but that's not all it's for. We also want, for instance, to do testing on Fedora deliverables - one of the things we had working very briefly in AutoQA, for instance, was automated testing of the daily Rawhide boot.iso composes. The "RATS" test could run through a minimal install, see if it worked, and provide somewhat useful information when it didn't. Not package-level testing at all. Other references on taskotron's design: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Taskotron , https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tflink/taskotron_development_plan , http://tirfa.com/how-is-taskbot-different-from-autoqa.html (when it was called Taskbot). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct