On Wed, 2014-02-05 at 01:41 -0500, David wrote: > On 2/5/2014 12:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 21:47 -0500, David wrote: > >> On 2/4/2014 5:41 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> On Tue, 2014-02-04 at 14:29 -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >>> > >>>> and my suggestion is now to just create both partitions when > >>>> installing to GPT. Presumably if firmware can handle a GPT disk at > >>>> all, it won't care whether it happens to contain an ESP unless it's > >>>> actually trying to boot it using UEFI. > >>> > >>> You're making a fatal mistake: assuming some kind of sense on the part > >>> of firmware authors. ;) > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> I always enjoy these UEFI threads. Not. EfI has been a > >> replacement-in-progress for the old BIOS for a long time. > >> U(universal)EFI has been around a while as an upgrade for EFI. Someday, > >> perhaps soon, BIOS will die. > >> > >> Which means? If Linux can not play nice with UEFI then Linux will die > >> with BIOS. > > > > Er. What's your point? This whole thread started from a rather extensive > > guide to installing Fedora on UEFI which I wrote. We're now discussing > > rather pie-in-the-sky stuff that doesn't have much to do with what you > > posted. > Sure it does. In a way. Whenever UEFI is mentioned there is a panic in > the ranks. Windows!! Windows!! Microsoft!! Microsoft!! > > Which is crap. There is no real problem. You need to fix the conspiracy > crap. Fix it? Or live/die with it. What? I didn't say anything about Microsoft. I opined that firmware vendors couldn't find their rear ends with two hands and a map, which isn't a particularly controversial opinion among anyone who's had to deal with their work. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct