Re: RFC - Downgrade BlueZ to v4.101 in Fedora 20

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On 23/01/14 23:59, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:58 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
>> On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:04 +0100, David Sommerseth wrote:
>>>
>>> Nope, several packages depends on the bluez-5.13-1 package.
>>
>> Indeed.  However I could probably live without gnome-bluetooth if
>> blueman were still available.
>>
>> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth though.  Would it work with Bluez4?  Would
>> it need a compile to do so?  I wonder how you make that a functional
>> downgrade that users can select if they still need Bluez4.
>>
>>> ---------------------------
>>> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>>> Error: Package: pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-4.0-9.gitf81e3.fc20.x86_64
>>> (@updates/20)
>>>            Requires: bluez >= 5.0
>>>            Removing: bluez-5.13-1.fc20.x86_64 (@updates/20)
>>>                bluez = 5.13-1.fc20
>>>            Downgraded By: bluez-4.101-9.fc19.x86_64 (updates)
>>>                bluez = 4.101-9.fc19
>>>            Available: bluez-4.101-6.fc19.x86_64 (fedora)
>>>                bluez = 4.101-6.fc19
>>> Error: Package: 1:gnome-bluetooth-3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 (@anaconda/20)
>>>            Requires: bluez >= 5.0
>>>            Removing: bluez-5.13-1.fc20.x86_64 (@updates/20)
>>>                bluez = 5.13-1.fc20
>>>            Downgraded By: bluez-4.101-9.fc19.x86_64 (updates)
>>>                bluez = 4.101-9.fc19
>>>            Available: bluez-4.101-6.fc19.x86_64 (fedora)
>>>                bluez = 4.101-6.fc19
>>>  You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem
>>>  You could try running: rpm -Va --nofiles --nodigest
>>> ----------------------------
>>>
>>> Might even be a worse conflict for other users, depending on installed
>>> packages.  I believe there's no way around re-compiling NetworkManager,
>>> pulseaudio and other GNOME and KDE packages depending on bluez.
>>
>> Indeed.  I suspect the same.  Perhaps gnome-bluetooth could be
>> uninstalled and replace with blueman without too much heartburn.  It's
>> the other packages that get troublesome.  A
>> pulseaudio-module-bluetooth-bluez4 as an alternative BT module for PA?
>> Something similar for NM?  It's starting to get ugly and perhaps the
>> effort spent doing that would be better put towards:
>>
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73325#c5
>>
>> But either way, it does seem a pretty serious regression.  Although
>> maybe you and me, David, are the only F20 users using HSP bluetooth
>> headsets.  :-/
> 
> Out of curiosity, what do people use Blueman for?

I used it in far earlier versions of Fedora, because gnome-bluetooth was
just lacking basic features.  I used it to setup GPRS/3G connections
using PAN and not rfcomm (as that was the only thing working with my
cell phones at that time), browsing files via OBEX over bluetooth ....
plus it gave more informative information on signal strengths of
connected devices - useful for some debugging.

But as GNOME got far better Bluetooth support (F14 and F19 were quite
good, even though file browsing seemed somewhat cripled in F19), I used
what was there instead of using blueman additionally.

I actually think Cinnamon used blueman in F19 for Bluetooth management,
 iirc.


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kind regards,

David Sommerseth

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