On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:19 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 15:08:13 -0800 > Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ...snip... > > > I don't think that's true at all. Would anyone on either side of the > > debate object to an approach which tried to identify software that was > > truly abandoned either up- or down-stream - not just 'software that no > > longer required changing' - and throw that out? > > > > I'm sure there's at least a certain amount of low-hanging fruit that > > no-one would really mind getting rid of. > > I think the problem would be coming up with a acceptable criteria for > detecting 'truely abandoned' packages. > > I mean, I'm a maintainer for the Fedora apg package. > Last upstream release was 2003. I very rarely touch it. > Yet, from time to time I still use it here, I suspect, but do not know > that others install and use it. > > It has no bugs currently opened against it. > > It's not failed a mass rebuild. > > The last time I touched it was to move it to use systemd unit files > (it can optionally run a network service to return it's data). > > Is this a package that should be removed for being abandoned? Well, let's say it's certainly not 'low-hanging fruit' :) I'm not saying I have all the answers, just suggesting a possibly more productive course. At least now we have people co-operatively discussing the possibilities and potential dangers of doing an *intelligent* pruning, rather than throwing crap at each other from entrenched positions about whether a *dumb* pruning is a good idea or not. I'd say that's an improvement. If I was the one drawing up a proposal to do this, I'd start from the *easy* cases. The *hard* cases you can handle later, and it would obviously be perfectly reasonable to adopt a 'conservative' posture, where the default expectation is that packages will be kept, and there has to be a strong argument/consensus/whatever for throwing a package out. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
