Le mercredi 18 décembre 2013 à 21:40 +0000, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" a écrit : > On mið 18.des 2013 21:20, Reindl Harald wrote: > > who do you think you are to claim whatever people are "outside the community"? > > Individual that tells that truth and shed's light how RH operates. Shed light on "RH decide on its own how to spend their money without asking to others" ? Or the truth of "having job title not decided by the community" ? > Since you are not aware of it Red Hat invented the position of Fedora QA > Community Manager ( I dont know who but I would very much like to meet > that person ) and placed Adam in that position. "Community manager" != "manager". Yes, the title doesn't express it quite well, create some confusions and I would suggest to people in similar position to use "community gardener" as Dave Neary told me once to emphasise the difference. But if you would look at what I think to be usual US job titles, you could see stuff like "office manager", "key account manager" and various other titles that doesn't hold much managerial responsibility in the traditional sense ( ie, managing people, deciding what others people do, etc ). So focusing on job title rather than the acts of the person seems to be a quite weak foundation for any kind of conclusion, especially since the last part of your mail seems to imply that you do not know what is in the job description. > Adam had no history with the community when he took that job and neither > does Mike R. Adam demonstrated skills by working on QA for another distribution ( ie mandriva ) for several years, handling discussion with community, handling tests on Cooker, etc, etc. It is all archived on ml, you can check. So claiming he had no history with the community is either a lie, or a myopic view of the community by restricting yourself to Fedora QA while ignoring the free software community at large for no good reasons. -- Michael Scherer -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct
