Re: unaccessability

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Am 10.11.2013 01:35, schrieb Les Howell:
> On Sat, 2013-11-09 at 22:47 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Nov 2013 12:28:46 -0500 (EST), Christian Schaller wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> The core principle of the installer is that it operates on an application level and not a package level. The current way it determines if something is an application
>>>  is by looking for a .desktop file. So in theory you could put a bitchx.desktop file  into the bitchx package and it would appear in the installer. That said I don't 
>>> think it is generally a bad idea if command line/terminal applications are installed from the command line, but there is no hard policy blocking such applications from making themselves available in the installer.
>>>
>>
>> Please don't let it install applications, which cannot be started via the
>> graphical desktop user interface (such as a menu system or a list of
>> installed Applications). Users, who install software with the help of a
>> graphical program, expect that afterwards they can find and launch the
>> installed software via the graphical desktop user interface. Alternatively,
>> the installer ought to offer launching something as the next step.
>>
>> If the installed software is only available at the command-line, there
>> ought to be a big fat warning about that. Or a special category, or a
>> hurdle to take, before a CLI program could be installed. It's similar with
>> clicking ".rpm" packages on a web page. Installing them has become easy
>> enough, but especially newbies are confused a lot, if the installation is
>> successful but there seems to be no way to start the installed stuff.
>> It's no helpful marketing, if in forums they get told that what they have
>> installed is command-line only and doesn't show up in the desktop GUI
>> anywhere. The installed thing ought to be "reachable" via the GUI, so
>> e.g. for a service/daemon, there ought to be a way to locate that thing
>> without having to use a terminal.
>>
> 
> I have kind of been following this, but a command line program can be
> launched using a launcher icon 

really?

most shell commands are useless without params
ffmpeg, convert, rsync........


[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ convert
Version: ImageMagick 6.7.8-9 2013-03-10 Q16 http://www.imagemagick.org
Copyright: Copyright (C) 1999-2012 ImageMagick Studio LLC
Features: OpenMP

Usage: convert [options ...] file [ [options ...] file ...] [options ...] file

Image Settings:
  -adjoin              join images into a single multi-image file
  -affine matrix       affine transform matrix
  -alpha option        activate, deactivate, reset, or set the alpha channel
  -antialias           remove pixel-aliasing
  -authenticate password
                       decipher image with this password
  -attenuate value     lessen (or intensify) when adding noise to an image
  -background color    background color
  -bias value          add bias when convolving an image
  -black-point-compensation
                       use black point compensation
  -blue-primary point  chromaticity blue primary point
  -bordercolor color   border color
  -caption string      assign a caption to an image
  -channel type        apply option to select image channels
  -colors value        preferred number of colors in the image
  -colorspace type     alternate image colorspace
  -comment string      annotate image with comment
  -compose operator    set image composite operator
  -compress type       type of pixel compression when writing the image
  -define format:option
                       define one or more image format options
  -delay value         display the next image after pausing
  -density geometry    horizontal and vertical density of the image
  -depth value         image depth
  -direction type      render text right-to-left or left-to-right
  -display server      get image or font from this X server
  -dispose method      layer disposal method
  -dither method       apply error diffusion to image
  -encoding type       text encoding type
  -endian type         endianness (MSB or LSB) of the image
  -family name         render text with this font family
  -fill color          color to use when filling a graphic primitive

  -filter type         use this filter when resizing an image

  -font name           render text with this font

  -format "string"     output formatted image characteristics

  -fuzz distance       colors within this distance are considered equal

  -gravity type        horizontal and vertical text placement

  -green-primary point chromaticity green primary point

  -intent type         type of rendering intent when managing the image color

  -interlace type      type of image interlacing scheme

  -interline-spacing value

                       set the space between two text lines

  -interpolate method  pixel color interpolation method

  -interword-spacing value

                       set the space between two words

  -kerning value       set the space between two letters
  -label string        assign a label to an image
  -limit type value    pixel cache resource limit
  -loop iterations     add Netscape loop extension to your GIF animation
  -mask filename       associate a mask with the image
  -mattecolor color    frame color
  -monitor             monitor progress
  -orient type         image orientation
  -page geometry       size and location of an image canvas (setting)
  -ping                efficiently determine image attributes
  -pointsize value     font point size
  -precision value     maximum number of significant digits to print
  -preview type        image preview type
  -quality value       JPEG/MIFF/PNG compression level
  -quiet               suppress all warning messages
  -red-primary point   chromaticity red primary point
  -regard-warnings     pay attention to warning messages
  -remap filename      transform image colors to match this set of colors
  -respect-parentheses settings remain in effect until parenthesis boundary
  -sampling-factor geometry
                       horizontal and vertical sampling factor
  -scene value         image scene number
  -seed value          seed a new sequence of pseudo-random numbers
  -size geometry       width and height of image
  -stretch type        render text with this font stretch
  -stroke color        graphic primitive stroke color
  -strokewidth value   graphic primitive stroke width
  -style type          render text with this font style
  -synchronize         synchronize image to storage device
  -taint               declare the image as modified
  -texture filename    name of texture to tile onto the image background
  -tile-offset geometry
                       tile offset
  -treedepth value     color tree depth
  -transparent-color color
                       transparent color
  -undercolor color    annotation bounding box color
  -units type          the units of image resolution
  -verbose             print detailed information about the image
  -view                FlashPix viewing transforms
  -virtual-pixel method
                       virtual pixel access method
  -weight type         render text with this font weight
  -white-point point   chromaticity white point

Image Operators:
  -adaptive-blur geometry
                       adaptively blur pixels; decrease effect near edges
  -adaptive-resize geometry
                       adaptively resize image using 'mesh' interpolation
  -adaptive-sharpen geometry
                       adaptively sharpen pixels; increase effect near edges
  -alpha option        on, activate, off, deactivate, set, opaque, copy
                       transparent, extract, background, or shape
  -annotate geometry text
                       annotate the image with text
  -auto-gamma          automagically adjust gamma level of image
  -auto-level          automagically adjust color levels of image
  -auto-orient         automagically orient (rotate) image
  -bench iterations    measure performance
  -black-threshold value
                       force all pixels below the threshold into black
  -blue-shift factor   simulate a scene at nighttime in the moonlight
  -blur geometry       reduce image noise and reduce detail levels
  -border geometry     surround image with a border of color
  -bordercolor color   border color
  -brightness-contrast geometry
                       improve brightness / contrast of the image
  -cdl filename        color correct with a color decision list
  -charcoal radius     simulate a charcoal drawing
  -chop geometry       remove pixels from the image interior
  -clamp               restrict pixel range from 0 to the quantum depth
  -clip                clip along the first path from the 8BIM profile
  -clip-mask filename  associate a clip mask with the image
  -clip-path id        clip along a named path from the 8BIM profile
  -colorize value      colorize the image with the fill color
  -color-matrix matrix apply color correction to the image
  -contrast            enhance or reduce the image contrast
  -contrast-stretch geometry
                       improve contrast by `stretching' the intensity range
  -convolve coefficients
                       apply a convolution kernel to the image
  -cycle amount        cycle the image colormap
  -decipher filename   convert cipher pixels to plain pixels
  -deskew threshold    straighten an image
  -despeckle           reduce the speckles within an image
  -distort method args
                       distort images according to given method ad args
  -draw string         annotate the image with a graphic primitive
  -edge radius         apply a filter to detect edges in the image
  -encipher filename   convert plain pixels to cipher pixels
  -emboss radius       emboss an image
  -enhance             apply a digital filter to enhance a noisy image
  -equalize            perform histogram equalization to an image
  -evaluate operator value
                       evaluate an arithmetic, relational, or logical expression
  -extent geometry     set the image size
  -extract geometry    extract area from image
  -features distance   analyze image features (e.g. contrast, correlation)
  -fft                 implements the discrete Fourier transform (DFT)
  -flip                flip image vertically
  -floodfill geometry color
                       floodfill the image with color
  -flop                flop image horizontally
  -frame geometry      surround image with an ornamental border
  -function name parameters
                       apply function over image values
  -gamma value         level of gamma correction
  -gaussian-blur geometry
                       reduce image noise and reduce detail levels
  -geometry geometry   preferred size or location of the image
  -identify            identify the format and characteristics of the image
  -ift                 implements the inverse discrete Fourier transform (DFT)
  -implode amount      implode image pixels about the center
  -interpolative-resize geometry
                       resize image using 'point sampled' interpolation
  -lat geometry        local adaptive thresholding
  -layers method       optimize, merge,  or compare image layers
  -level value         adjust the level of image contrast
  -level-colors color,color
                       level image with the given colors
  -linear-stretch geometry
                       improve contrast by `stretching with saturation'
  -liquid-rescale geometry
                       rescale image with seam-carving
  -median geometry     apply a median filter to the image
  -mode geometry       make each pixel the 'predominant color' of the neighborhood
  -modulate value      vary the brightness, saturation, and hue
  -monochrome          transform image to black and white
  -morphology method kernel
                       apply a morphology method to the image
  -motion-blur geometry
                       simulate motion blur
  -negate              replace every pixel with its complementary color
  -noise geometry      add or reduce noise in an image
  -normalize           transform image to span the full range of colors
  -opaque color        change this color to the fill color
  -ordered-dither NxN
                       add a noise pattern to the image with specific
                       amplitudes
  -paint radius        simulate an oil painting
  -polaroid angle      simulate a Polaroid picture
  -posterize levels    reduce the image to a limited number of color levels
  -profile filename    add, delete, or apply an image profile
  -quantize colorspace reduce colors in this colorspace
  -radial-blur angle   radial blur the image
  -raise value         lighten/darken image edges to create a 3-D effect
  -random-threshold low,high
                       random threshold the image
  -region geometry     apply options to a portion of the image
  -render              render vector graphics
  -repage geometry     size and location of an image canvas
  -resample geometry   change the resolution of an image
  -resize geometry     resize the image
  -roll geometry       roll an image vertically or horizontally
  -rotate degrees      apply Paeth rotation to the image
  -sample geometry     scale image with pixel sampling
  -scale geometry      scale the image
  -segment values      segment an image
  -selective-blur geometry
                       selectively blur pixels within a contrast threshold
  -sepia-tone threshold
                       simulate a sepia-toned photo
  -set property value  set an image property
  -shade degrees       shade the image using a distant light source
  -shadow geometry     simulate an image shadow
  -sharpen geometry    sharpen the image
  -shave geometry      shave pixels from the image edges
  -shear geometry      slide one edge of the image along the X or Y axis
  -sigmoidal-contrast geometry
                       increase the contrast without saturating highlights or shadows
  -sketch geometry     simulate a pencil sketch
  -solarize threshold  negate all pixels above the threshold level
  -sparse-color method args
                       fill in a image based on a few color points
  -splice geometry     splice the background color into the image
  -spread radius       displace image pixels by a random amount
  -statistic type geometry
                       replace each pixel with corresponding statistic from the neighborhood
  -strip               strip image of all profiles and comments
  -swirl degrees       swirl image pixels about the center
  -threshold value     threshold the image
  -thumbnail geometry  create a thumbnail of the image
  -tile filename       tile image when filling a graphic primitive
  -tint value          tint the image with the fill color
  -transform           affine transform image
  -transparent color   make this color transparent within the image
  -transpose           flip image vertically and rotate 90 degrees
  -transverse          flop image horizontally and rotate 270 degrees
  -trim                trim image edges
  -type type           image type
  -unique-colors       discard all but one of any pixel color
  -unsharp geometry    sharpen the image
  -vignette geometry   soften the edges of the image in vignette style
  -wave geometry       alter an image along a sine wave
  -white-threshold value
                       force all pixels above the threshold into white

Image Sequence Operators:
  -append              append an image sequence
  -clut                apply a color lookup table to the image
  -coalesce            merge a sequence of images
  -combine             combine a sequence of images
  -composite           composite image
  -crop geometry       cut out a rectangular region of the image
  -deconstruct         break down an image sequence into constituent parts
  -evaluate-sequence operator
                       evaluate an arithmetic, relational, or logical expression
  -flatten             flatten a sequence of images
  -fx expression       apply mathematical expression to an image channel(s)
  -hald-clut           apply a Hald color lookup table to the image
  -morph value         morph an image sequence
  -mosaic              create a mosaic from an image sequence
  -print string        interpret string and print to console
  -process arguments   process the image with a custom image filter
  -separate            separate an image channel into a grayscale image
  -smush geometry      smush an image sequence together
  -write filename      write images to this file

Image Stack Operators:
  -clone indexes       clone an image
  -delete indexes      delete the image from the image sequence
  -duplicate count,indexes
                       duplicate an image one or more times
  -insert index        insert last image into the image sequence
  -reverse             reverse image sequence
  -swap indexes        swap two images in the image sequence

Miscellaneous Options:
  -debug events        display copious debugging information
  -help                print program options
  -list type           print a list of supported option arguments
  -log format          format of debugging information
  -version             print version information

By default, the image format of `file' is determined by its magic
number.  To specify a particular image format, precede the filename
with an image format name and a colon (i.e. ps:image) or specify the
image type as the filename suffix (i.e. image.ps).  Specify 'file' as
'-' for standard input or output.

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