On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 16:58 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > ----- [Florian Weimer wrote:] ----- > >> "Wayland" and "systemd" strongly suggest no Ubuntu interoperability > >> whatsoever. Shouldn't this be a top priority for bundled applications? > > > > If we get any traction on this, their customers/users will ask them for it > > themselves. > > Hahaha, you really think you can force Canonical into adopting your > technologies that way? LOL! This is going to backfire spectacularly! (My > guess: Canonical will come up with their own Ubuntu App model requiring > Ubuntu technologies and all the third-party developers you are trying to > attract will target only that one.) They already *have* one: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19 I have no idea how it works or where it's documented, but it exists. Given that it's there and working and people are using it, the obligation would seem to be on any group that comes along later to try and implement something similar to: i) evaluate Ubuntu's system for its potential to be used outside of Ubuntu ii) If it's not ready to be used outside of Ubuntu as-is, propose a future development path which would result in interoperability and ask the developers of the Ubuntu system if they're willing to work down such lines, and make a genuine effort to have that come about, even at the cost of short-term inconvenience in development iii) If that proves impossible, communicate the situation and the attempts that were made clearly and publicly I'd therefore suggest anyone trying to invent a new app-level distribution mechanism go and look at and produce a formal evaluation of all the existing efforts in the space, including this one, before inventing something else new. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct