Re: Draft Product Description for Fedora Workstation

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On Thu, 2013-11-07 at 16:58 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Bastien Nocera wrote:
> 
> > ----- [Florian Weimer wrote:] -----
> >> "Wayland" and "systemd" strongly suggest no Ubuntu interoperability
> >> whatsoever.  Shouldn't this be a top priority for bundled applications?
> > 
> > If we get any traction on this, their customers/users will ask them for it
> > themselves.
> 
> Hahaha, you really think you can force Canonical into adopting your 
> technologies that way? LOL! This is going to backfire spectacularly! (My 
> guess: Canonical will come up with their own Ubuntu App model requiring 
> Ubuntu technologies and all the third-party developers you are trying to 
> attract will target only that one.)

They already *have* one:

http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=19

I have no idea how it works or where it's documented, but it exists.
Given that it's there and working and people are using it, the
obligation would seem to be on any group that comes along later to try
and implement something similar to:

i) evaluate Ubuntu's system for its potential to be used outside of
Ubuntu
ii) If it's not ready to be used outside of Ubuntu as-is, propose a
future development path which would result in interoperability and ask
the developers of the Ubuntu system if they're willing to work down such
lines, and make a genuine effort to have that come about, even at the
cost of short-term inconvenience in development
iii) If that proves impossible, communicate the situation and the
attempts that were made clearly and publicly

I'd therefore suggest anyone trying to invent a new app-level
distribution mechanism go and look at and produce a formal evaluation of
all the existing efforts in the space, including this one, before
inventing something else new.
-- 
Adam Williamson
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