Ok, so I guess the solution would be for the launcher to do something like this: gnome-terminal --geometry 80x37 --disable-factory --role=bitchx --class=bitchx --name "bitchX IRC" --title "BitchX IRC" That said Ray mentioned that this is probably not supported yet in the Shell launcher. Anyway, as Richard says, we should have a proper design discussion around this and not just add a ton of .desktop files without thinking through the presentation and how it will work. But feel free to file some bug reports to kick of a discussion. Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hughes" <hughsient@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" <devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2013 4:02:07 PM Subject: Re: unaccessability On 7 Nov 2013 17:13, "Richard Vickery" < richard.vickeryrv@xxxxxxxxx > wrote > Is / was a rather political decision to make BitchX unavailable through this app-market / Software GUI thing? How do you launch bitchx from gnome-shell? If it's just a random binary without any desktop or appdata file, it isn't an application as far as gnome-software is concerned. If that needs to change, it needs to be discussed and properly designed in #gnome-design. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct