Am 06.11.2013 21:37, schrieb Josh Boyer: > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> FWIW the ship has probably sailed now, but I really don't think it'd be >> much of a problem to have 3.12 in F20 at release time. It's what I've >> been running on my F20 box here for the last several weeks anyway, and >> based on my testing it's unlikely to cause us any particular problems. > > I literally just screamed. > > The past 3 releases we've been pointedly reminded by QA that when > doing fixes they should be scoped to as small as possible. So we've > been trying really hard to do that during the Alpha and the Beta > freezes. And now you want to ship a Beta (which gets the widest > testing feedback of the pre-releases) with 3.11, and shove 3.12 in > after that as the F20 release kernel? > > It could be the massive amount of email and meetings today addling my > brain, but can you explain how that makes sense? may i also bring in this discussion that the images are not rebuilt in the worst case thi smeans live-CD/DVD images are unusable on recent hardware a real-world case for me was F15 - unusable on SandyBridge machines by horrible frrezing desktop all day long, these day snot that critical because we got new kernels after release, but they does not change live-media after it
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