Re: Software management: Call for RFEs results!

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On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 6:46 AM, Matthew Miller
<mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:19:16PM -0700, Michael Stahnke wrote:
>> Developers don't do deployments with RPM...at least not inside Fedora.
>> Anything sane is actually against Packaging Guidelines. So that
>> becomes a problem, and developers skip it. If  developers (or
>
> Can you elaborate on "anything sane"?

Basically having to break out applications into FHS pathing when it's
something like a ruby application that is all in on directory
normally. Putting it in /opt/application_name or /srv/appname is
pretty typical in the field. Doing that in Fedora is a sin. The people
who package things like redmine or mediawiki spend more time making
symlinks and debugging pathing issues than actually being able to use
the software. (At least when I maintained a few web apps, that was how
I felt).

I don't love the all-in-one container style deployment, but I think
it's the least-worst way to deploy many types of applications.


>
>> Also, sometimes developers/deployments need multiple versions of things
>> installed.
>> Is there a an effort that complements this one on the policy/non-technical
>> side?
>
> Sort of. This is basically the charter of the Environments and Stacks
> Working Group -- see
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next/callfornominations and
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next/WG_Nominations
>
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