On 09/02/2013 07:37 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Could we have avoided this conflict by scheduling better in advance? We might have been able to do slightly better, because GNOME schedules are published in advance and set pretty much in stone. In the end, it's hard to plan for this though because we tend to slip often with Fedora (there has already been a two-week adjustment to F20 schedule: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1095#comment:12) What really matters is to have the final releases of Fedora and GNOME roughly in sync (by the way, thanks for everyone involved for making the shorter F20 schedule work!). It's not much of a problem if there are small scheduling issues with Alpha / Beta releases, as long as the final Fedora release doesn't come too late after a GNOME release. I think what's happening now is perfectly fine: GNOME release arrives a day or two after Fedora freeze, we package everything up quickly and if it's good, include it as a freeze exception. If it's problematic, leave it for after freeze. There's some small annoyances involved, but slipping the whole Fedora just to wait for GNOME 3.9.91 wouldn't be a worse solution, in my opinion. -- Kalev -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct