On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:09:12AM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > And retiring packages is too difficult in Fedora. The process is > complex or not known by all packagers: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life > > Some retire only in pkgdb (some create orphans instead, which somebody else > picks up without checking history), others only create the dead.package > file. Renaming is particularly more complicated, if another packager needs > to take action and retire something properly prior to another (mass-)rebuild. It recently became easier, because "fedpkg retire" takes care of the most important steps since recently. > I've opened tickets about the "undeads" below, but I'm not sure there > will be a response to all of them. Basically, all of them should be > blocked in koji for F20 and newer *and* retired in pkgdb, and the > undeads are not marked dead in git yet. I guess you won't get responses to packages that are orphaned, because then the bug report is assigned to the orphan user. > Dead and all builds obsoleted: > ------------------------------ > classads > ibus-table-array30 > openstack-quantum > pdfbook > python-cryptsetup > python-quantumclient These are now all blocked (some of them were already). You might want to use the koji repos directly to get more up-to-date results: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide/i386/os > Undead and all builds obsoleted: > -------------------------------- > drupal6-drush > jaxen-bootstrap > joystick > kdirstat > latexdiff > nss-myhostname > pdfjam > ps2eps > seahorse-plugins > zeitgeist-datahub If nobody objects, I can take care of above packages as well and retire them properly. Can you maybe tweak your script to also show which package obsoletes the package? This would make it easier to create a meaningful dead.package file. Here is some more detailed information about the packages, created with http://till.fedorapeople.org/tmp/pkginfo.py - you mind find some code in there helpful. === drupal6-drush: Drush is a command line shell and scripting interface for Drupal === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: afsilva (asrob, siwinski) Status: 3 (Approved) (2012-03-22 14:19:47.169709+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: afsilva (siwinski, asrob) Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 20:14:10.217109+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: afsilva (asrob, siwinski) Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:04:59.645238+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === jaxen-bootstrap: A convenience package for build of dom4j === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: s4504kr () Status: 3 (Approved) (2011-12-01 16:09:36.313808+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: s4504kr () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 20:14:10.217109+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: s4504kr () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:23:38.768624+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === joystick: Utilities for configuring most popular joysticks. === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: orphan (karsten) Status: 20 (Deprecated) (2013-01-15 17:23:50.239890+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: orphan (karsten) Status: 20 (Deprecated) (2013-08-20 20:14:10.217109+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: orphan (karsten) Status: 20 (Deprecated) (2013-03-12 02:35:26.583016+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === kdirstat: Graphical Directory Statistics for Used Disk Space === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: chitlesh () Status: 3 (Approved) (2008-07-22 17:12:54.972471+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: chitlesh () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 20:31:55.339085+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: chitlesh () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:35:26.583016+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === latexdiff: Determine and mark up significant differences between latex files === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: danken () Status: 3 (Approved) (2009-01-13 20:36:55.000710+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: danken () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 20:31:55.339085+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: danken () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:35:26.583016+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === nss-myhostname: glibc plugin for local system host name resolution === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: lennart () Status: 3 (Approved) (2009-05-10 19:16:52.484515+00:00) Critpath: True Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: lennart () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 20:31:55.339085+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: lennart () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:55:37.326894+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === pdfjam: Utilities for join, rotate and align PDFs === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: salimma () Status: 3 (Approved) (2008-07-22 17:12:54.972471+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: salimma () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 20:31:55.339085+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: salimma () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:55:37.326894+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === ps2eps: PS-to-EPS converter === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: terjeros (pertusus) Status: 3 (Approved) (2008-07-22 17:12:54.972471+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: terjeros (pertusus) Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 21:08:26.487876+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: terjeros (pertusus) Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 02:55:37.326894+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === seahorse-plugins: Plugins and utilities for encryption in GNOME === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: mclasen (tbzatek, mcrha) Status: 3 (Approved) (2008-08-07 20:57:25.918113+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: mclasen (tbzatek, mcrha) Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 21:08:26.487876+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: mclasen (tbzatek, mcrha) Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 03:18:59.598784+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: === zeitgeist-datahub: The zeitgeist engine data logger === Tags: None Branch: devel: Owner: deji () Status: 3 (Approved) (2011-05-12 16:38:55.373427+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f20: Owner: deji () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-08-20 21:29:36.233359+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: Branch: f19: Owner: deji () Status: 3 (Approved) (2013-03-12 03:18:59.598784+00:00) Critpath: False Dead: -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct