Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

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> Dne 23.8.2013 10:24, Peter Robinson napsal(a):
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> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Matthew Miller < mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
> wrote:
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> On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> > > What things we do _now_ could be
> > > improved with the investment of some effort?
> > Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect
> > the mass rebuild.
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> Apparently less so with all the new ARM builders, right? Is this something
> you're saying could be improved, or is it just something we always need to
> budget time for?
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> The perl upgrade process is some what manual and there's a whole bunch of
> circular dependencies that cause/require a bunch of manual bootstrapping of
> certain packages so the perl mass rebuild is some what different to a
> standard all in mass rebuild.
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> Peter
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> The same applies for Ruby. It is definitely not just "fire the rebuild and
> forget". During the process, there is typically need to update some packages
> to be compatible with latest release, some were FTBFS already before, some
> others need bootstrap due to circular dependencies.

I'd say we need a real solution for ordered rebuilds. Every team that needs
this has a different tools/scripts to do it. Perl, I'd say Ruby, KDE (actually
not ordered one), GNOME... And not usable by infra for mass rebuilds etc.

Mirek, any ideas? ;-)

Jaroslav

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