On Thu, Oct 28, 2004 at 11:45:38PM +0200, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > They're not. They're as fed up with arts as "we" are with esd. When I > talked with multimedia people at DDC in Ottawa, they sounded even more > desperate than we are to get rid of it. > > Which makes me wonder: Alan, why do you like arts so much? Its better than esd. Thats its only redeeming feature - so I certainly don't like it or hold it up as ideal.