On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 13:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 11:10 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:23:51 +0000 (UTC) > > Petr Pisar <ppisar@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On 2013-06-12, Kevin Fenzi <kevin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > So, there's nothing preventing the side tag and rebuild anytime now > > > > right? 5.18.0 is out, so we could start that work in rawhide?=20 > > > > > > > Currently 5.18.0 does not pass one test when running in mock and koji. > > > (It's because of the terminal usage in tested perl debugger.) We think > > > we could have solved this issue in a few days. > > > > Cool. > > > > > Could you explain how the side tag inheritance works? It inherits > > > everything from rawhide, even builds made after the side tag creation, > > > > yes. > > > > > except packages whose builds have been already made in the side tag. > > > Am I right? That means we still get fresh third-party dependencies > > > from rawhide. > > > > yes. However, there's are several downsides: > > > > - Each side tag adds newrepo tasks which increases load a lot. > > - If you rebuild perl-foo-1.0-1 in the side tag against the new perl, > > then the maintainer has to fix something in rawhide, they would build > > perl-foo-1.0-2 in rawhide and when the side tag was merged back over > > either everyone would get the older one with the bug, or the newer > > one against the old perl. So, it's really important to not take a > > long time using a side tag to avoid this problem as much as possible. > > Seems like this one came true in practice. It seems like a 5.18 rebuild > run was done in a side tag and then merged back into Rawhide. > Unfortunately, quite a lot of the 5.18 rebuilds seem to have been done > prior to the general F20 mass rebuild - so the mass rebuild won out, and > effectively squelched the perl rebuild. > > I'm rebuilding the packages I have installed locally that seem to have > been affected by this, but I'm sure there are others... repoquery turns up these things that require either perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.0) , perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.1) , perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) or perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.3) : perl-DBD-AnyData-0:0.110-6.fc18.noarch perl-MIME-Lite-HTML-0:1.24-4.fc18.noarch perl-Net-Amazon-S3-0:0.53-5.fc18.noarch perl-Padre-0:0.90-6.fc18.noarch perl-SQL-Abstract-Limit-0:0.141-12.fc18.noarch perl-PDL-Graphics-PLplot-0:0.59-3.fc19.x86_64 gpsdrive-0:2.11-15.fc19.x86_64 mojomojo-0:1.08-2.fc19.noarch perl-BackPAN-Index-0:0.42-2.fc19.noarch perl-Bio-SamTools-0:1.35-2.fc19.x86_64 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