On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 09:45 -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: > [This discussion should come off list. I'm not replying to any more of > these. spf-discuss is the correct place to have these discussions.] > > On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 08:48 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-10-25 at 21:07 -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote: > > > No. You fix them. > > > > Right. SPF, if it's to work, requires the whole world to 'upgrade' to > > make the initial flawed assumptions of SPF come true. > > Fortunately, SPF already works. I gave concrete examples showing that this statement is false. You elided them from your reply -- although amusingly you did include the words "you fix them" which you said earlier, at which time you apparently _were_ prepared to acknowledge that a vast number of mail servers out there in the real world are not operating in accordance with the flawed assumptions of SPF. But you're right. This discussion doesn't live on this list. If people want an education in how email actually works in the real world, and hence why SPF is broken, there are many alternative fora in which they can learn. Or they can try running their own mail servers for a few years and learn the fun way. -- dwmw2
