On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 04:36:20PM -0400, Bastien Nocera wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > On Thu, 2013-07-25 at 17:36 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Thu, 25.07.13 14:39, Jaroslav Reznik (jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > > > > > Partially accepted Changes > > > > * No Default Sendmail - > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSendmail - > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185328.html > > > > > > > > Sendmail will be removed from @core. Removal of sendmail from @standard > > > > didn't > > > > pass. Note: About @standard group might be decided in next release of > > > > Fedora. > > > > > > > > * No Default Syslog - > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NoDefaultSyslog > > > > discussed on > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-July/185329.html > > > > > > > > Remove rsyslog from @core, move to @standard pending revaluation in > > > > future. > > > > > > Note that this is not the decision I was interested in. I will hence not > > > work on the implemetation of either of these features. Unless Matthew > > > takes them over alone I will will mark these feature pages as obsolete > > > as they didn't get agreed on. > > > > Taking rsyslog out of @core is a one-line commit to comps which someone > > could do in 30 seconds. It hardly needs 'working on'. > > Given the amount of time that he spent on the mailing-list fighting for > those features, then it looks like a waste of time, that work has been > done. > Unfortunately, the most controversial changes are going to generate the most discussion on the mailing lists and also have the most chance of failing or requiring modifications in order to be allowed. There's just no getting around that. > Thankfully, it's been removed from the default Desktop spin. > Someone pointed this out to me on IRC earlier. I'm not sure whether that's something that FESCo needs to also approve or not and whether they would. I was hoping I might find some precedent in past tickets but although there seems to be plenty of precedent, it doesn't all agree with each other. I've tacked on this question to the FESCo feature ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1143 -Toshio
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