-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/22/2013 12:07 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Lun 22 juillet 2013 17:56, Stephen Gallagher a écrit : >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 07/22/2013 11:37 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >>> 3. lack of clearly defined LAN infra : Windows comes with AD >>> and local network sharing, our desktop comes with facebook >>> clients. Guess which one is actually useful to produce code. >>> Linux for workgroups is a fantasy >>> >> >> I realize I'm pulling apart one specific example, but you DO >> realize that Fedora comes with FreeIPA, NFSv4 and samba, right? >> Those three components accomplish most of what you're describing >> in "AD and local network sharing". Work is being done in both >> GNOME and KDE right now to provide a better user-experience for >> enabling those shares, but the capability is there. > > I do realise Fedora includes some technical bricks necessary to > provide the service. However : 1. nobody knows about them. Startups > do not have time for investigating desktop capabilities, if it's > not easy to find, deploy and use it does not exist 2. last I've > seen, the integration of the server parts was not sufficient and > required quite a lot of operator work (but it may have changed) 3. > the server parts are irrelevant if the desktop parts do not use the > out of the box with minimal operator/user work > > Again, startups do not care about "the best technical infra" > (Fedora angle) or "the most robust and versatile infra" (RHEL > angle). They care about "the quickest and easiest way to get devs > to churn code". > Sure, absolutely. But that was kind of my point above: we have the tools to do the job and we're just missing some of the user-experience elements to pull it all together. And as for "nobody knows about them", that may be the case in the individual end-user case, but for the mid-level users (those who have tinkered with an "alternative" OS before), samba and NFS are very well-known, and FreeIPA is making huge inroads in the small-to-medium business space, especially with its AD-interoperability capabilities. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHtWfwACgkQeiVVYja6o6OAEQCfRuWqtLEGw6iuWNTMqeTiuEvJ Mw8An0Nnst3CACjobB83mqVx+MSdXht8 =41dk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
