Hi, For daemons, it happens that people (or puppet/ansible) makes a config change that causes the config file to not load and be invalid. When restarting the service, it will stop but not start. Ideally, the stop should be aborted. I was looking at ExecStopPre= (which is mentioned in the systemd.service man page, although it does not have its own section, so is easilly missed) but it did not abort the stop on a parse error in the daemon's config file. I found this note by Lennart: http://osdir.com/ml/fedora-devel-list/2011-05/msg00696.html No, ExecStopPre= cannot be used for making shutdown of a service conditional. Even if one of the pre lines fails we will go on with shutting down the service, however we will store the exit code and the service will be in "failed" state once fully shut down. My question is, why not? Various daemons (libreswan, bind, knot, nsd, etc) have a "check config" option that could be used to prevent stopping a service if the config file got messed up so it would prevent the service from starting. I realise that it is not optimal to keep a service running that will fail to restart on the next machine boot, but is that preferable over failing immediately? If ExecStopPre= would fail and log a message, sysadmins would be able to notice the issue and fix it. And there would be 0 downtime. As opposed to the current behaviour, which kills the service. However, if ExecStopPre= would support this, then every maintainer could choose for themselves which situation is preferred. Paul -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel