On 11. 7. 2013 at 12:59:42, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 16:38 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > >> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Application Installer = > > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AppInstaller > > >> > > >> To improve some problematic aspects of the updates user experience > > >> (long waits, locks), we will use the new hawkey backend for > > >> PackageKit. > > > > > > (echo issue with a different backend that Toshio had) > > > > I haven't seen Toshio's mail, so I apologize for possible redundancy: > > > > From an earlier FESCo decision > > > > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/669#comment:24 : > > > The RPM package installation GUI that is installed by default should use > > > the same dependency solver/backend as the non-GUI default.> > > Is this Change implicitly asking FESCo to revoke this requirement? > > Yes, if you want to put it that way. We want to use a backend that can > supported the desired user experience. > > The hawkey stack is groomed to replace yum anyway. All we're asking is > that we can use it early, so we can provide the testing exposure they > need and ensure that hawkey does actually support the things we need. > > Without that, there's a very real danger that hawkey/dnf end up > producing a perfect copy of yum (including all of the problems)... Don't worry, that's not gonna happen. Hawkey has been built on top of libsolv library that implements a different solver than yum uses. Under no circumstances will this change. The more likely scenario is that gnome- software/PackageKit will be forced by the policy to use the old yum which will make future adoption of dnf much more difficult. Thanks Jan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel