Matthew, We'll be looking into LLVM in due course. There are a few of us capable of fixing the issue (that you were noted as being extremely concerned about on IRC at the time - we will be happy to send you updates on this) but we balance this with other priorities (as well as a desire not to grow a dependency on LLVM more broadly - Fedora relies heavily upon the expertise of RH's tools team, which focuses on GCC almost exclusively precisely to avoid fragmenting the resources that do exist to develop awesome new tooling). Right now, many desktops work just fine, and there is no reason ARM cannot be a a Primary Architecture because of a temporary bug in llvmpipe (or otherwise we can revive this thread for you next time it breaks on the other architecture and see if it should be demoted accordingly?). If there is a rule saying "PA needs GNOME" then this can easily be adjusted to reflect the fact that many are running Fedora on ARM today happily with a variety of other desktop environments. Jon. -- Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2013, at 18:57, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > llvmpipe has been known to be broken for months, and nobody on the ARM > team appears capable of fixing it. As a result, ARM shipped in F19 > without any out of the box support for running our default desktop. > > This doesn't make it seem like the ARM port currently has sufficient > developer expertise involved, and I'd really like to hear what the plans > are for (a) fixing the existing problems, and (b) ensuring that we don't > end up in a situation where other architectures are held up because > there's nobody who can fix ARM-specific bugs. > > > -- > Matthew Garrett | mjg59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > -- > devel mailing list > devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
