-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 13:32:11 -0400 Bill Nottingham <notting@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > (bringing back an old thread) > > Dennis Gilmore (dennis@xxxxxxxx) said: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On Sun, 12 May 2013 17:56:20 +0200 > > Christoph Wickert <christoph.wickert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > back in April we discussed the F19 spins and it was widely agreed > > > that http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/19/Spins is the > > > canonical list of approved spins that need to be produced. > > > However this doesn't seem to be the case, I only see the desktop > > > spins. In fact, that is not even true given that I cannot find > > > MATE either. > > > > > > What does the spins SIG need to do in order to get the remaining > > > spins? > > > > We have for the last few releases composed the 5 main desktop spins > > Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE and SoaS for Alpha and Beta and in theory > > nightlies have been used for QA. before making the 5 we only made > > KDE and Gnome. QA has not been really happening as is evidenced by > > spins regularly failing to compose, and being shipped DOA, as in the > > design-Suite in F18 and Games being dropped for failing to compose. > > I personally fixed a bunch of spins in F17. > > > > For Fedora 19 I'm planning to only compose those 5 for GA also and I > > will only be shipping them if they have been tested and signed off > > by at least 3 people as working. This is due to Spins having been > > shipped broken in the past. I think we need to stop pretending > > there is a spins SIG as its not been functional or working for a > > few years. > > Functional or not, has this been widely disseminated? > > - Are all the spin maintainers aware? > - Is the websites team that builds and maintains spins.fp.o aware, and > ready to handle only updating some of the spins listed there? > - Is it in the release notes? > etc. > > It's a very large change to drop five deliverables, obviously. > > Bill websites are aware, spin maintainers were notified via the spins list, no objections have been raised. not sure if its in the release notes. Dennis > > > > > Perhaps the question we really need to ask is how should we deploy > > and install Fedora, Which is not something we can change or solve > > for f19 or probably even f20. An idea that comes to mind is to > > have package selections and post install config tasks ship as > > kickstart snippets with the DVD. we then use grub/syslinux to > > present a menu to the users to have different frameworks that > > resemble the spins the kickstart is fed to anaconda then at boot > > time or anaconda gives you the option to select them. > > > > Dennis > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iEYEARECAAYFAlGRG2kACgkQkSxm47BaWfervQCfcXLPBL3ucCxdOdFnYqE52iZP > > Q4YAoIESAgq60oY1xph75EdK3A9fcxzR > > =3O/u > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > > spins mailing list > > spins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/spins > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlHJgggACgkQkSxm47BaWfdWPACcDWk3o9ioiN2u7fd9S2jHAw0d 1ekAnROkEWAvuX3hu+HdxwRKwAuMbRWD =1Swk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel