On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 18:51 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Sat, 2013-06-22 at 11:00 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> > I've filed an update with some 20 packages, only removing excess baggage >> > from /usr/share/doc (duplicate docs, large ChangeLog files, etc). It >> > touches nothing outside /usr/share/doc, so should be fairly safe to let >> > in. That will probably only get us part of the way, so I've also cut >> > some more things from the package set in the .ks file (gnome-system-log, >> > deja-dup). >> That's a shame; Deja Dup is an excellent GNOME 3 backup app, and >> including it by default encourages good (encrypted) backup habits. >> >> But I guess something has to go if we care about 1 GB. (It just seems >> like such a strange target... I don't think you can buy 1 GB USB sticks >> anymore.) > > It was the next 'obvious step up' from 700MB, and at the time was > comfortable enough for everything we really needed. Stuff happened. > > Desktop team might be able to rejig things early in F20 cycle somehow, > or we might have to go up in size again. > > Going too big does have consequences: a, say, 2GB download is pretty > slow for some people, 1) Removing the limit does not mean you have to put in twice as many stuff in. We are currently bikesheeding about a few MBs. Which is nonsense. If you cannot download a few more MBs using Fedora with that internet connection is rather pointless. The end result is a worse default offering then we had before to save a few MBs. 2) We don't have to set a limit at all. Just include the stuff we want to include (and try to optimize that to be as small as possible). Just because someone decided "there has to be a size limit and if we don't meet that target we block the release" does not mean that this is the right thing to do (note: it isn't). A limit only makes sense if you target a CD. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
