On Tue, 2013-06-04 at 07:23 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Vít Ondruch <vondruch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dne 3.6.2013 19:04, Dan Mashal napsal(a): > > > >> What is a system wide change vs a self contained change vs a new change? > > > > > > That is good question. I was always against distinguishing between these > > two, but .... > > > > For example, if there will be new release of Ruby, I am going to propose > > them as a "self contained" change, since it is less bureaucracy and let the > > community decide, if the change is controversial and FESCo should decide. > > > > And I would suggest everybody to do the same. > > So would python 2.7 -> 3 be a self contained change? Would glib > deprecations be a self contained change? > > Personally, whether it "should" or "shouldn't" harm some things I > don't really see a problem with doing it the old way, so even no one > really cares that much about python 3 it's still listed as a new > feature on one page in addition to new or old spins. > > Another example is MATE 1.4 -> 1.6, sure this is a self contained > change but it's still considered a new feature. Is Gnome 3.6 -> 3.8 a > feature? Sure it is. > > Is Anaconda a "self contained" feature? Definitely not. Is there > really much meaning to putting Anaconda listed as a feature? Not > really IMHO. There's a lot of grey area here and I just see this kind > of complicating things more. With respect to all "features" mentioned. The point of differentiating between them is not about how much publicity they get / how 'important' they are considered to be, but about how much review and co-ordination they require. One of the big drawbacks that was widely noted with the old Feature process was that a 'feature' which had about zero chance of breaking anything outside of itself - say, a major new release of Eclipse, or something - had to go through all the same 'project review' phases as a 'feature' that could break the world - like the new anaconda in F18, or systemd, or deprecating Python 2 or something. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
