Hi Miro,
thanks for good mail.
I will try to explain some things regarding Developer Assistant.
Primary we want to implement just GitHub but we decided to implement
OpenShift during the developing phase as well.
Current focus is mainly GitHub and OpenShift (in future).
More things have to be hardcoded and we have not enough resources for
implementing another storages.
By the way is there any API for Fedora Hosted?
Best regards
Petr
On 05/31/2013 11:19 PM, Miro Hrončok wrote:
Hi all,
few days ago I was explaining to someone*, what the Developer
Assistant [0] is.
When I said something like: "...and you project is exported directly
to GitHub [1] if you want", the person I was talking to interrupted me
and asked an interesting question:
Why our own tools prefer a proprietary service, such as GitHub, over
our own infrastructure (Fedora Hosted.org)?
The answer is very easy: Because developers prefer GitHub over Fedora
Hosted and we want to target on the majority.
That leads us to other question: Why do developers prefer GitHub over
Fedora Hosted?
Of course not each developer uses Fedora etc., but even many of our
own projects are usually hosted on GitHub or Bitbucket - see Developer
Assistant itself or Yumex as an example. Try to search Fedora on
GitHub [2].
But other reason is, Fedora Hosted user/developer experience is way
worse than GitHub's. Even for a registration or a small change you
need to create a ticket, there is no interface for pull requests or
similar things (or not that I am aware of). Browsing the projects
(user friendly), whatever.
I would like to change that and make Fedora Hosted infrastructure
something, that can compete GitHub. Or at least provide a service that
developers using Fedora would consider as a choice.
What about running something as GitLab [3] or Gitorious [4] on Fedora
Hosted, add continuous integration for creating repos with nightly
RPMs, integrate it with FAS, brand it with Fedora graphics, add more
stuff and make it cool. Simply provide a truly open alternative for
developers that not only develop free software, but also are
interested in freedom and openness?
Than we can provide our own service, that our tools can integrate with
as default. I don't except developers will leave GitHub and move to
Fedora Hosted, so there is nothing wrong on supporting GitHub in our
tools. But wouldn't it make more sense to promote our own services at
the first place? Why support a company that makes profit and is not
related to Fedora at all?
Of course you can argue that Fedora's main goal is not to provide free
software hosting service, but then why we offer Fedora Hosted in the
first place, right?
[0] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DevelopersAssistant
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DevelopersAssistant#GitHub_Integration
[2] https://github.com/search?q=fedora
[3] http://gitlab.org/
[4] http://gitorious.org/
* I haven't got time to ask for permission to publicly quote this
person about this on the list, but if you are the person and want the
attribution, feel free to say it :)
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Best regards / S pozdravem
Petr Hracek
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