On Mon, 2013-05-20 at 16:12 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > 3. If we ship sendmail/postfix/exim we can keep on as we are now, since > they can do local delivery out of the box. However, user needs to login > as root or otherwise check emails for root or configure it to send to > another email address they check or they are basically in the same boat > as log only. However, people already might be expecting this behavior. There is a notable distinction here: for the case of any kind of notification system set up to work by delivering mails locally, if we install a local-delivery capable MTA out of the box, you only have to anything 'special' in order to *consume* the notifications. They are always at least generated and delivered; at any point you perform the configuration, you find all the notifications that have previously been delivered. If we were to ship a relay-only MTA, or no MTA, by default, then this would not be the case. Until you performed the 'special configuration' (install an MTA or configure the relay-only MTA), the messages would be lost. Well, the relay-only MTA might queue them for a while, but I doubt it would forever. Without an MTA, anything that tries to send mail will just get a fatal error. So you would lose all the messages that tried to be sent up until the point you actually configured your MTA. I don't necessarily think these points are significant enough to merit shipping a full MTA by default still, but I think it's important that we have as accurate as possible a picture of all the scenarios. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel