On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 12:52 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 14.05.13 17:30, Dan Williams (dcbw@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > > > On Tue, 2013-05-14 at 15:51 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > This is not intended to be snarky, but I admit it could sound like it is. When are long startup times for services considered to be bugs in their own right? > > > > > > > > > [root@f19q ~]# systemd-analyze blame > > > 1min 444ms sm-client.service > > > 1min 310ms sendmail.service > > > 18.602s firewalld.service > > > 13.882s avahi-daemon.service > > > 12.944s NetworkManager-wait-online.service > > > > Is anything waiting on NetworkManager-wait-online in your install? That > > target is really intended for servers where you want to block Apache or > > Sendmail or Database from starting until you're sure your networking is > > fully configured. If you don't have any services that require a network > > to be up, then you can mask NetworkManager-wait-online and things will > > be more parallel. > > Dan, could you please implement these recommendations for F19: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=787314#c37 > > This really shouldn't be pulled in unconditionally... The changes you suggest there seem fine; one question about After=syslog.target being removed though: intentional? I pretty much just take your guidance on the .service files. Dan -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel