Re: Idea: "{Gnome,KDE,Xfce,...} Minimal Desktop" groups

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On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher <sgallagh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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On 04/29/2013 10:55 AM, Rich Mattes wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Sandro Mani <manisandro@xxxxxxxxx
> <mailto:manisandro@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
> So, what about creating groups for the various desktop
> environments which pull in basesystem + xorg + mesa drivers +
> displaymanager + bare desktop shell?
>
>
> Do the groups already provided in comps.xml[1] not work for this
> task?
>
> Currently, one can use yum's groupinstall option to install the
> gnome, kde, xfce, lxde, mate, and cinnamon desktops and desktop
> environments.
>
> Rich
>
> [1]
> https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/comps.git/tree/comps-f19.xml.in
>
>


If I understand the original request, his problem is that the
groupinstall (and the comps listing for default entries) is still too
heavyweight for him in some situations. He basically wants there to be
a GNOME-minimal, KDE-minimal, etc. option in the installer to get JUST
a working desktop shell and nothing else. No companion apps, etc.


Correct

I'm inclined to feel that this is a bit of a niche problem, frankly.
I'd like to see some more justification. In most cases, the default
set of packages are there because they're assumed to be the set of
things that most people would want installed if they're using that
desktop.

For a initial install of a full OS for production purposes, sure, but for instance when installing another desktop side-by-side, I may not want yet another texteditor, browser, chat client, etc. And when setting up and updating my virtual machines, I really like to keep the system as slim as possible. But I also want to empathize the benefit of having a set of packages which define what is necessary for the desktop shell to start, the same way one knows that the minimal set is close to what is necessary to have a bootable system.
 

That said, if someone wanted to do the exploration, come up with those
minimal package sets and propose them for inclusion to comps.xml (with
the blessing of the related desktop SIG), I have no problems with it
myself.

If there is enough interest, I'm happy to do some exploration.
 
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