----- Original Message ----- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 03/28/2013 08:30 AM, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 28. 3. 2013 at 12:59:44, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> Dne 28.3.2013 12:09, Florian Festi napsal(a): > >>> This is done to make life easier for package maintainers. > >> > >> Sorry, you definitely not speak for me! This are just excuses. > >> And I asked already several times to have some way to reliable > >> support multiple version of packages without mangling their > >> names. > > > > Víťo, I certainly understand your frustration, as it comes from > > talking about this topic over and over again. However Ruby > > community is a *very* special case in this regard and I'd like to > > treat it as such. > > > > If you want, we can start a discussion here. But if we do, let's > > keep the discussion strictly constructive and just about > > *technical* problems. Let's not take this to design level of > > things, as Ruby and Fedora are two completely different worlds that > > will never be fully compatible by design. Therefore the final > > solution (if there is any) has to be some sort of compromise. > > > > It's not just Ruby that has these issues, though. To take a python > example: Django. Most Django packages are built against a specific > minor version of Django, and the Django upstream regularly breaks > backwards compatibility with those minor releases. > > It ends up requiring Fedora to carry multiple copies of python-django > in the repo, usually versioning the older ones (so in the current > situation, we have python-django and python-django14, with > python-django referring to Django 1.5) And in fact, there is a proposal from Nick Coghlan [1] to make Python load mechanisms work good with multiple versions of packages, which in result would take Python pretty close to the Ruby way in this regard. -- Regards, Bohuslav "Slavek" Kabrda. [1] http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2013-March/020163.html -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel